Two huge reads on Feminism circa 2009! Open thoughts, Open source thread!

Whew.

Okay, I have a giant headache because up too late but, yesterday I read the two most incredible pieces and they made me start thinking and thinking about how feminism was lived in the 1980’s.

Periodically I go over and read Reclusive Leftist, I totally understand her on Feminism and she is HUGE!

But, these two pieces!

Show the splits in the 80’s along gender and class lines, as well as sexual orientation.

My “straight hetero” feminism will be looking different than say “lesbian feminism.”

My feminism was about girls being EQUALS with boys!

My gen got to have that in the workplace — it was hard for us though. We left college with those degrees and it was the 80’s. The patriarchy was the males of the 60’s –? That is who was running all the big companies we worked in? It was hard for us as women and we didn’t have a cohesive group going on at all. Not like the women of the 60’s did? Because in those days, WOMEN had NO RIGHTS and boy did they ever fight for them!

My generation had to go up against intrenched patriarchal structures in order to get ahead on the job.

My generation is all about helping girls advance. All girls?

My feminism is going to look like Hillary Clintons does?

Even though I lived out mine in the 80’s and 90’s corporate sphere.

I don’t understand the concept of “feminazi” what is that?

Where do women who are Lesbians fitting with FEMINISM now?

What do the words Radical feminism mean to you?

What happened as various minority women became feminists in the *80’s?

Why are we seeing Sarah Palin as strong, but not Hillary?

Why were only certain women able to identify with Hillary as “FEMINIST” –?

These are HUGE questions, but I want to go get some perfume. I’m really proud of the novel I am going to write because fiction is going to tell the tale of what happened to my friends and I as women?

I am going to leave no stone unturned on that.

Nothing.

In the meantime, boy, talk about writing!

Riverdaughter and Cinie.

Please read them, and if you are a guy let me know how you are thinking about this too?

What impact did feminism have on you as you came out of the eighties and college?

How do you identify with that word?

hugs and xxoo!

Here is Cinie!

Did Feminism Kill Macho?

Here is RD!

Black, white and Sarah

These pieces are so well written that it is going to take me days to come up with something that can even touch how smart these two writers are?

Days.

But the themes in these pieces are the sort that Camille Paglia and Erica Jong could weigh in on at the big places they get published?

Not snarky, but real?

Too much is at stake for little girls of all colors right now?

Ps: I’d love it if you wanted to weigh in on transgenderism from your own perspective on this as well!

Serious!

And thank you!

This is not about arguing points, this is more about how people identify themselves?

And what the word feminism means to you?